About Windows 7?

[Dangerless]

Has anyone used it yet? I really would like to upgrade to it but I don't really know if it's another crappy OS much like Vista was.

[Dontar]

they say Windows 7 is supposed to fix everything Vista was shitty for..

but its still gonna require a shitload of ram and shit..

so im never gonna have it...im gonna stick with XP till the day my computer dies (alive 13 years & counting)

[Pyro]

You have xp! Lucky. My xp computer died and I got a vista one instead. :(

although, I don't think that 7 is going to be that good.

[Cadavre]

Yarr harr, fiddelidee, being a pirate is alright to be! Do what you want 'cause pirate is free! YOU ARE A PIRATE!

What I mean with this; download XP. :P

[Shiny]

If you have Vista and no desire to go back to XP, then get Windows 7. I've heard lots of good things about it either way, however.

[Cadavre]

Windows 7 is supposed to be able to be slimmed down so it require less ram than XP.

[kpedersen]

I must admit, I do prefer Windows 7 to Vista... Which is odd for me because I hate change :p

It is a lot more responsive and uses almost half the ram of Vista.

If you do not have much of a GFX card or Microsoft / Intel is refusing to make WDM 2.0 specification drivers for it, Windows 7 will look unusably ugly.

Long live Windows 2000 :p

[Spooon]

Windows 7 is nice and shiny, new. I like it.

[Pyro]

Yarr harr, fiddelidee, being a pirate is alright to be! Do what you want 'cause pirate is free! YOU ARE A PIRATE!

What I mean with this; download XP. :P

I understood that. Just if windows 7 is better why fo down? Any tried 7 yet though?

[demonspit777]

I can install Win 7 for free anytime, I just cannot do it right now for the fact that I'm afraid it will mess with my research and class work etc... I'll do a total reformat when this semester ends.

[Cadavre]

I understood that. Just if windows 7 is better why fo down? Any tried 7 yet though?
You were sad that you had Vista. I was stating that you have a choice, you're not bound to use Vista. I've heard that Windows 7 easily beats both XP and Vista. I haven't used Windows 7 yet myself, but I have heard so many good things about it.

[Developer]

Same here. Ive been playing around with it at my friends pc. It 'feels' alot faster then Vista and its less annoying. I kinda like it. But the memory usage is still quite high compared to xp. Games and everything run faster then on Vista (my experience) and when I tested it, it had an WindowsXP emulator built in for incompatible software! Amazing.

If my PC was better I'd update.

[Joey]

i love windows 7, months of use :)

[kalzor]

i love windows 7, months of use :)

Same. Windows 7 is easily the best operating system Microsoft has ever made. Yes, I just said that. :megaeek:

[Nitro2030ce]

I've been using it since the beta, REPLACED my XP. No regrets.

[Koroshiya]

It's not too bad. I still prefer the structure and design of XP. But, Windows 7 has been fair enough that I don't feel terribly compelled to go through the process of downgrading.

I like the ability to use DX10 and DX11. So, I'll hang on to it for a while.

[wsensor]

hmm... I was wandering about it... I technicly have 4 gigs of ram... (but my xp only supports 3.5 gigs lol...)

I got the wrong XP when I went to the store... I am sorta getting tired of seeing all these stores selling XP for the same price as it was when it was new...

XP was not worth the original full price it was when it first came out after the first 2-3 years... but nope all the stores kept the price up lol...

hmm
currently I am using 492 megs of ram... thats just the basic stuff runing and 4 programs using extra ram... for some reason with only this page open firefox is eating up more and more eram slowly... 96megs now... hmm I think I am switching to ie for a bit since this keeps happening lol

(well I uninstalled some plugins windows plugins for some reason like I am ever gonna listem to windows media player in firefox lol or real player for that matter...)
buy the ram starts at 46 megs and goes up to 56 with just opening this forums 0.o

[Cadavre]

Firefox is really buggy nowadays. I've stopped using it. It has more flaws than the 2.1.7.1 client. ;(

I stopped using it when I realized Firefox took a total of 1 gb of ram/swap... and I had only like 3-4 tabs open.

[Beholder]

Yeah I'm noticing firefox silently crash often as well.
Requires me to close all windows and restart firefox completely in order to be able to load webpages again.

[Stowen]

yeah noticed the same shit

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actually downloading windows 7 now, will let you know how it is when i get 'er running

[RileyFiery]

So far I have yet to have problems with Windows 7 compared to Vista. Have any of you ran into problems?

[Dontar]

I will never upgrade to windows 7, nither my desktop nor laptop have the system specs to run it...(too old)

[Beholder]

I will never upgrade to windows 7, nither my desktop nor laptop have the system specs to run it...(too old)
If you're running XP, you pretty much have the Specs.

[Shiny]

rofl I run XP and my specs are way below min.

[SeraphX]

If you're running XP, you pretty much have the Specs.

He's running 2000, I believe.

[Dontar]

Windows XP Professional
Intel Celeron 1.1ghz
512 megs ram
128 meg video
4 meg on-board sound

plain boot, i have a little over 100mb of memory free.

[-Ghost-]

i love windows 7, months of use :)

Agreed. I've had mine since the summer, and I absolutely love it. It kicks shitty Vista's ass.

[Stowen]

Download and installed today, definately beats vistas ass. Props to microsoft =x

[RileyFiery]

Yeah, they got something right ... though just give it time for people to create new viruses. :P There are still a lot of Anti-Windows hackers out there.

[Shiny]

I wish Mac's were popular for just a few years so that hackers would target them for a change and make Mac users stfu about how great it is just because of its security.

[RileyFiery]

Agreed ... Macs are only safe because people absolutely hate PC's running Windows. :P Well most good hackers.

[Downsider]

Macs are only really safer because they hold a very small percent of the market share and a hacker simply wouldn't target them if they can target the larger share of the market, and make more money through whatever adware they develop.

[Nalin]

Windows 7 is just a tweaked Windows Vista. But I really like it, so I'm not complaining. Vista was a perfectly fine OS. Vista used more computer resources to speed up your PC experience. Meaning, it used more GPU power to give you a hardware accelerated desktop with no window tearing, more RAM to preload programs, and more CPU to index your computer, among other things. It would allow you to start programs up faster, move them around your desktop with no slowdown, find files quicker, etc. Its one flaw was that it didn't know how to scale down its background services when installed on a less than modern computer. All the services designed to speed up your computer experience were now degrading it.

Windows 7 fixes all this. It scales better on your hardware. It turns off many services by default. It delays loading of certain services to boot faster. It is all around a faster OS.

But it is still basically Vista. All compatibility problems you may have had in Vista are most likely present in Windows 7. Windows 7 does benefit from the fact that it can use drivers designed for Vista, so it didn't have that huge clusterfuck that was the Vista launch with 3rd parties deciding to release drivers a year after Vista was released.

[Developer]

Most Mac users piss me off cus theyr like: Look at my shiny new MacBook Pro! Omg! Im so ueber. I just payed 2000$ to get a 2x1.2Ghz CPU and 512MB Ram! But it has an great glowing apple on the backsite of the case...


Wtf?

[RileyFiery]

I want a glowing apple ... also Nalin, that was quite a good explanation. :) +1

[Cadavre]

Most Mac users piss me off cus theyr like: Look at my shiny new MacBook Pro! Omg! Im so ueber. I just payed 2000$ to get a 2x1.2Ghz CPU and 512MB Ram! But it has an great glowing apple on the backsite of the case...


Wtf?

Lol, MacBook Pro's do have more power than that. And what they offer is a product with good quality. I've always had problems with PC's, and I grew up with Apple/Macintosh. One thing that annoys me to hell is that they keep doing that one button mouse shit.

I totally agree with the smug mac users that think they're much better because they use a mac. That's just retarded, it's just a computer.

I'm still using PC's, I can't afford a Mac, otherwise I would buy one. My mother on the other hand got one from her job and I like it, even though the touchpad only has one button...

[Nalin]

Lol, MacBook Pro's do have more power than that. And what they offer is a product with good quality. I've always had problems with PC's, and I grew up with Apple/Macintosh. One thing that annoys me to hell is that they keep doing that one button mouse shit.
The Mac computers at my university have an interesting mouse. It only has one button, but it has sensors underneath the plastic, so if it detects that a finger is on the right-hand side of the mouse (and no finger on the left-hand side), it counts it as a right-click. I thought it was pretty fancy when I experimented with it.

[Developer]

The MacBookPro from my work- buddy can also detect a right-click...

[Cadavre]

The Mac computers at my university have an interesting mouse. It only has one button, but it has sensors underneath the plastic, so if it detects that a finger is on the right-hand side of the mouse (and no finger on the left-hand side), it counts it as a right-click. I thought it was pretty fancy when I experimented with it.

Well, if it's the same with the touchpads I'll start saving for a macbook. :>
I'll run trippleboot on it if I get one. Mac OS X, Linux and Windows. I wonder which I would end up spending the most time with.

[Dontar]

I had a mac once...came with the online school I went to...never again...slow, ugly, barely any good games available...I never used it...I used the windows port they finally made of the software they used.

[Spooon]

Win7 was made just for me!... at least that's how it feels

[Beholder]

Win7 was made just for me!... at least that's how it feels
Lubed up and ready to go like a fudge packing factory.

[caHarkness]

I hate anything above Windows XP, as they primarily focus on the end user, not the power.
Above all, Windows XP has the best integrity because it was designed to get-it-done.

Windows Vista and Windows 7 are just filled with useless fluff.
If Windows XP doesn't have it, it's either Aero, or something stupid that can be replaced with 3rd party software.

[kalzor]

Windows Vista and Windows 7 are just filled with useless fluff.

You clearly have only spent two minutes using windows 7 at best buy if that's what you really think.

[Nalin]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Vista#New_or_changed_features
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7#New_and_changed_features

Vista added a hardware accelerated desktop that removed tearing and redrawing when moving windows about. It redesigned the audio, graphical, and networking subsystems, made improvements to font readability, and added built-in speech recognition. It pre-caches programs into memory for faster startup times and integrates itself with the background defragmenter to further improve loading speeds. It has full support for current-gen multi-core processors (XP has issues with multiple cores.) It has a much better firewall and security was a major force in its design. And I am not mentioning all the business related additions.

Windows 7 added tons of improvement for tablet devices, including advancements in touch and handwriting recognition. It supports virtual hard disks. Multi-processor performance is further improved from Vista's improvements, and it even boots faster. Fonts are even more readable, and can be fine-turned per monitor. It has a re-designed task bar and icon tray that make it easier to manage multiple windows and switch between them. And there are countless tweaks everywhere that make it much easier to find what you want to do.

XP is old. Very old. Sure, it is more powerful in the sense that you can get 85 frames/second in your video games instead of 80 frames/second, or finish your video encoding 6 seconds sooner. But Vista/7 have been designed to get you working faster, with less waiting and less hassle. Everything about it has been designed to use your system resources in such a way that improves your workflow, so you get more work done, rather than spend all your time fighting Windows. My computer defrags itself, indexes files, performs virus scans, and optimizes performance behind the scenes. I never have to deal with window tearing anymore. I click a button and get miniature previews of all my opened windows, so I don't have to guess which one I want to open. I don't have to worry about my video driver blue-screening my computer (it just crashes and restarts itself, yay user-mode video drivers.)

Honestly, if you still think Windows XP is so great, you obviously have an outdated computer, or you don't do much on it other than play video games.

[Dontar]

don't do much on it other than play video games.

thats me

I also, my computer cannot support a high-end OS due to being a 14 year old DELL thats already maxed out on hardware upgrades...

[Downsider]

I like 7 for the "drag window to top for max, left/right to split" feature, enhanced alt+tab, faster startup, totally streamlined taskbar, and search feature.

I navigate so fucking fast, thanks Win7!

[Spooon]

I hate anything above Windows XP, as they primarily focus on the end user, not the power.
Above all, Windows XP has the best integrity because it was designed to get-it-done.

Windows Vista and Windows 7 are just filled with useless fluff.
If Windows XP doesn't have it, it's either Aero, or something stupid that can be replaced with 3rd party software.

Your point is invalid. I declare it so!

[eleventhree]

Your point is invalid. I declare it so!

Ill invalidate your point.

[Spooon]

I can easily remove your post, therefore invalidating your point.

[eleventhree]

I meant I would remove your "post"..

Ill use double quotes next time..

[caHarkness]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Vista#New_or_changed_features
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7#New_and_changed_features

Vista added a hardware accelerated desktop that removed tearing and redrawing when moving windows about. It redesigned the audio, graphical, and networking subsystems, made improvements to font readability, and added built-in speech recognition. It pre-caches programs into memory for faster startup times and integrates itself with the background defragmenter to further improve loading speeds. It has full support for current-gen multi-core processors (XP has issues with multiple cores.) It has a much better firewall and security was a major force in its design. And I am not mentioning all the business related additions.

Windows 7 added tons of improvement for tablet devices, including advancements in touch and handwriting recognition. It supports virtual hard disks. Multi-processor performance is further improved from Vista's improvements, and it even boots faster. Fonts are even more readable, and can be fine-turned per monitor. It has a re-designed task bar and icon tray that make it easier to manage multiple windows and switch between them. And there are countless tweaks everywhere that make it much easier to find what you want to do.

XP is old. Very old. Sure, it is more powerful in the sense that you can get 85 frames/second in your video games instead of 80 frames/second, or finish your video encoding 6 seconds sooner. But Vista/7 have been designed to get you working faster, with less waiting and less hassle. Everything about it has been designed to use your system resources in such a way that improves your workflow, so you get more work done, rather than spend all your time fighting Windows. My computer defrags itself, indexes files, performs virus scans, and optimizes performance behind the scenes. I never have to deal with window tearing anymore. I click a button and get miniature previews of all my opened windows, so I don't have to guess which one I want to open. I don't have to worry about my video driver blue-screening my computer (it just crashes and restarts itself, yay user-mode video drivers.)

Honestly, if you still think Windows XP is so great, you obviously have an outdated computer, or you don't do much on it other than play video games.

No, I just have no better reason to upgrade.
I'm not much of a gamer either.

I guess you guys can call me an idiot for calling those excellent, new features fluff, but I really don't need the stuff for what I do.

[Spooon]

I meant I would remove your "post"..

Ill use double quotes next time..

I don't get it. You never said the word "post" in any previous post in this thread.

[nitroz]

Windows 7 is a heck of a lot smoother on my computer than Vista was.

[Spooon]

Why are you reviving old threads?

[SeraphX]

I have 7. It is neat.

[Dangerless]

Windows 7 is a heck of a lot smoother on my computer than Vista was.

Has too many compatibility issues for my needs at the moment...

[Pyrez]

I only really play games on my PC and that's it. So XP all the way for me!

Unless... Win7 allows me to plug the inputs directly into my nervous system.

[kalzor]

I only really play games on my PC and that's it. So XP all the way for me!

Unless... Win7 allows me to plug the inputs directly into my nervous system.

It does

[Nitro2030ce]

Has too many compatibility issues for my needs at the moment...
Like? Everyone says this but they never say what exactly.

[Spooon]

Like? Everyone says this but they never say what exactly.

wat?

[Agret]

Has too many compatibility issues for my needs at the moment...
It's compatible with every driver that works on Vista, which is suprisingly a lot.
It also supports XP drivers for certain things too (like Vista did)

If you meant software-wise then I have no clue since i've found nothing that won't run on 7 so far, can you provide information?

[Dangerless]

It's compatible with every driver that works on Vista, which is suprisingly a lot.
It also supports XP drivers for certain things too (like Vista did)

If you meant software-wise then I have no clue since i've found nothing that won't run on 7 so far, can you provide information?

Nope. Because I really don't like Windows 7, I've had a few games that won't even run in Windows 7 (like Rome Total War + Barbarian Invasion or F.E.A.R and I believe Call of Duty 4 I won't work either). I'm only talking about software wise. Maybe it's because I'm using 64x or whatever, I just gave it away altogether, lol. Oh, before I forget I had a antivirus program not work, it was a pretty low-level protection one though and not a 'common' used one.

Windows XP and/or Linux is far better.

Sidenote: Funny how I didn't have any of these issues on Vista. Other than it being a resource hog and some driver issues.

[Dontar]

was those games not working, pirated by any chance?

Windows 7, Microsoft's solution to piracy in games, by not allowing games to work :-)

[Dangerless]

was those games not working, pirated by any chance?

Windows 7, Microsoft's solution to piracy in games, by not allowing games to work :-)

I bought them.

[LoakeyRonso]

was those games not working, pirated by any chance?

Windows 7, Microsoft's solution to piracy in games, by not allowing games to work :-)

well this should end Microsoft's reign of terror over most of the world . :marlon:

edit : didn't even notice the error .

[Nitro2030ce]

wat?
I have never had a compatibility issue with anything, unless it's extremely old. Even then, most old things still work.

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I believe Call of Duty 4 I won't work either)
Worked for me 100%.

[Dangerless]

I have never had a compatibility issue with anything, unless it's extremely old. Even then, most old things still work.

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Worked for me 100%.

I didn't ask if it worked for you, it just doesn't work for me.

[Glyde]

My friend was a beta tester for windows 7 and he got it for free... lucky bastard anyways I dont find much wrong with windows vista(please dont flame me about my opinion...) I would like a windows 7 but seeing that im 13 and dont really have an income I cannot really get it I guess im stuck with a vista right now... I did have a desktop emachines xp but it is so slow and beyond repair of that... im going to try and find some way to convert back to xp because I have some problems with vista when it comes to simple programming with it so I may look for a way to run xp with vista

[Spooon]

I tested Win7 and got a free Enterprise version from Lockheed.

[hosler]

I like it

[Twiggy]

Difference? :O!

VISTA = 100% CPU!!

XP = 50% CPU

7 = 25% CPU

o_o

Windows 7 or XP is the way to go.

[Agret]

I've had a few games that won't even run in Windows 7 (like Rome Total War + Barbarian Invasion or F.E.A.R and I believe Call of Duty 4 I won't work either). I'm only talking about software wise. Maybe it's because I'm using 64x or whatever

I'm using x64 (64-bit) too, F.E.A.R. & COD4 run fine.
I can't test the other game cause i'm not a raging RTS faggot.

Check if you have the latest patches for the games cause that shit helps sometimes?
Maybe you need to install them again after switching to windows 7, registry and shit? Shameless plug: www.regfiles.net is some site I am an admin on and you can get the reg you need for your games :P

Make sure you have latest video drivers and directx (use dxwebsetup.exe, google it or something)

[Cadavre]

I have Vista on my work computer, it's sooo disturbing. It feels like I'm sitting by my old 600 Mhz Celeron with 128 mb ram running XP. And that laptop isn't that bad either...
Amd Turion 64 x2 @ 2~Ghz + 2GB ram and some ATI Mobility graphics. I'm trying to convince my boss to atleast upgrade my computer to Windows 7. This is hell. ;(

[Dontar]

windows 7 is nice, I dont know why I hated it.

lol, my laptop is better than Cadavre's

though the widescreen monitor (17.3 HD Trubrite LED Backlit Display) is kinda hard to get used too in fps gameplay

[Cadavre]

windows 7 is nice, I dont know why I hated it.

lol, my laptop is better than Cadavre's

though the widescreen monitor (17.3 HD Trubrite LED Backlit Display) is kinda hard to get used too in fps gameplay

I don't use my WORK laptop to play games. you don't need a monster to develop websites. :)

[Dangerless]

After testing something on my friends Windows 7, I got the games to install and play only under safe mode.